| X@FOSDEM2008: We have a devroom! |
[Nov. 28th, 2007|07:12 pm] |
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Yup, we have one, and a bigger one too, so we can honestly state that we are bigger than ever!
The wiki page for this is set up here.
We will hopefully have a hothouse beforehand, but of course, this is just an intention so far.
What i would like to know ASAP is the following:
* First: anyone interested in speaking at the devroom? I think i can poke people for at least more than half of the 11 slots already, but if you do want to have a talk at the Xorg Devroom at FOSDEM2008, get in touch ASAP. The deadline for speakers for Xorg is 31st january 2008.
* Secondly, i would like to hear from X developers whether they are interested in coming to the hothouse on friday, and whether they would also come on thursday. If you do not know what a hothouse is please, visit the above wikipage again.
So... 23 and 24 of February 2008, in brussels, at the ULB Solbosch campus. Xorg DevRoom. Be there. |
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| Keith plugged on LWN. |
[Feb. 1st, 2007|11:02 am] |
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LWN just made it's LCA X coverage public.
Randr, randr, randr.
Once again, the importance of the split between fb<->crtc<->output is underlined. The main difference between this and the previous randr is the split of crtcs and outputs.
It is this exact split that keithp said was "Wrong", and a general modesetting system was said to be "impossible". Yup, at EXDC, during an intel paid lunch, when Waldo was writing down what intel could do for X, keith said that I, on all my views and ideas about modesetting, was completely wrong. He completely torpedoed me then.
And now he's been acting as if he pretty much came up with the split himself.
In the comments section at LWN, some people have picked up on this story. Here are some replies:
i3839: I don't _feel_ as if my ideas and code are used without being given credit. My ideas and code are out there, very much set in stone. And where is the credit? This is not a feeling, this is a fact. And Keith/intel aren't just trying, they are quite aggressively doing.
bronson: What do you believe in? Someone who can point to a long history of code and some talks? Or someone who works for a well known monopolist, telling you that that monopolist is great, and, suddenly, out of the blue, comes with the solution to world hunger, especially on things bought from that monopolist?
Yes, KGI is just another example of how Keith works. And it seems that there are plenty more things in X's history that have been unjustifiedly torpedoed by Keith. Most are hidden by history, as history is a very mouldable thing, and always written by the victorious party.
The history here is quite clear, and quite well documented. But not many people will learn about it, they will only see that other history.
The one thing that isn't proven in the current story, is what keith said at that lunch at EXDC.
It'll be hard to get a solid confirmation on that, as Keith himself is clearly not willing to admit to it. There were only six people there, one of which (Waldo Bastian) is a direct colleague, Alan Hourihane is working for a company that depends on intels contracts, one is Daniel Stone (need i say more?), who, quite unsurprisingly, claims to not remember what was said. The last person there is Egbert Eich, a long time Xorg Board member, who used to work with Keith at SuSE around the millenium, so the chance of getting confirmation from that end is slim too.
This is exactly how X works. Politics and money. Code, insights and ideas only matter if they come from the right parties.
In this story I've been compared to xfree86's David Dawes a few times. This is another story where Keith was heavily involved, and where history doesn't exactly favour David. I was not in any way following this row at the time, i even took unichrome development outside of this completely (something still frowned at by current X.org politicians), but I'm left wondering now.
What really did happen in the run up to Dawes adjusting the license? Who pushed him that far?
I'm sure that history will not be that clear on what really happened. |
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